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Notorious POD: Arizona Speech Code Lawsuit

With special guests Chad DeVries and Ryan Heath

I am making this episode open to the public, instead of limited to VIP Subscribers, because of the importance of the issue we explore.

In this episode, Notorious Rob discusses a significant legal case involving Chad DeVries, a Realtor facing ethics charges from the Arizona Association of Realtors for memes he shared on his private social media accounts. Joined by his lawyer, constitutional attorney Ryan Heath, they explore the implications of free speech in the real estate profession, the community backlash Chad faced, and the legal strategies being employed to challenge NAR's Speech Code. The conversation delves into the emotional toll of the situation, the importance of standing up for one's beliefs, and the potential consequences of the case for all Realtor Associations and for Realtors nationwide.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Case and Guests

06:02 Political Campaign and Community Backlash

11:59 The Hearing Process and Initial Reactions

17:58 Legal Theory Behind the Lawsuit

23:55 Controversial Posts and Community Reactions

32:22 Consequences of Speech Codes in Real Estate

38:48 First Amendment and Quasi-Governmental Entities

44:58 Civil Rights and Free Speech Claims

50:09 The Path Forward for Realtors

Discussion about this podcast

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NotoriousROB is the most respected and longest running blog in the residential real estate industry. Its readers from agents on the ground to C-suite executives are the most informed, most innovative in the business. The podcast, NotoriousPOD, continues the tradition of deep insight, no-fear and no-bullshit of the blog in audio format.